Viability of the 308 Winchester for SHTF

How viable is the 308 Winchester for a SHTF survival rifle? In the grand scheme of things, the 308 Winchester is probably the best suited rifle cartridge for a SHTF situation.

Typically, the 30-06 Springfield is the largest rifle caliber most people can shoot accurately. The keyword there is “most” people. As recoil goes up, accuracy goes down as shooters flinch before pulling the trigger.

There are two ways to counter trigger flinch:

  • Training.
  • Use a smaller rifle caliber.

The 308 Winchester offers less recoil than the 30-06 Springfield, but is very effective on deer sized game. People who live near dangerous animals, such as grizzly bears, may want to use a larger caliber than the 308 Winchester.

What makes the 308 Winchester well suited for SHTF?

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Is the AR-10 Platform Needed

There is an article on AllOutdoor.com talking about Heavy duty SHTF battle rifles. The picture used for the article shows an AR-10 next to an FN/FAL. Looking at the picture I have to ask myself, why do we need an AR-10 in a niche that is already full?

The right arm of the free world, the FN/FAL that has been in service since 1954. As of 2015 that is 61 years.

M1A, which is based off the M14, battle proven, reliable, marksmanship rifle has been in service since 1974. The M14 has been in service since 1959. As of 2015 that is 56 years.

PTR-91, based off the Heckler and Koch G3, in service since the year 2000, so only 15 years as of 2015. The Heckler and Koch G3 has been in service since 1959. So 56 years like the M1A.

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Installing Tech-Sight TSR200 on a Ruger 10/22

The Ruger 10/22 is an amazing rifle. However, if there is one part on the Ruger 10/22 that needs improving, it is the sights. If you want to be kind, we can say the factory sights are of a poor design. If we want to be honest, the factory sights are terrible.

The rear sight has these little bitty small screws that the head will break in half. Shortly after I bought my Ruger 10/22 in 1986 I tried to adjust the rear sight for elevation. The head on the screw broke in half. This also happened to a buddy of mine. He bought his Ruger 10/22 shortly after I did, tried to adjust for elevation, screw head broke.

I do not know when it happened, but the other sight screw fell out. Good luck finding a replacement.

Even though the Ruger 10/22 is a great rifle, the factory sights leave a lot to be desired. To fix this problem I bought the TSR-200 Tech-sight for my rifle.

Ruger 10/22 Front Sight

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Five Must Have AR-15 Accessories For SHTF

When the crap hits the fan what accessories would you want on your AR-15?

For OPSEC and to keep our name off extra paperwork lets ignore silencers and short barreled rifles.

Silencers may play an important role in surviving a Post-SHTF world, but paperwork is also an OPSEC issue. Anyone having access to the right paperwork will know exactly who has a silencer and who has a short barreled rifle. Then there are the local, state and federal laws and restrictions.

For the sake of discussion and to keep things simple, lets just exclude anything that requires paperwork.

Iron Sights

The art of shooting with open sights is a dying pastime. In todays world with so many reflex and red dot optics on the market who needs to use old fashioned iron sights?

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Keeping a Rifle at the Backdoor

On the morning of November 23, 2013 I learned a lesson about keeping a rifle at the backdoor.

Around 7:30 am or so I got out of bed to go let the chickens out of the chicken house. When I opened the backdoor of the house 4 wild hogs went running across the field directly behind the house.

The rifle I had at the backdoor was a Ruger 10/22.

I stepped off the distance from the back of house to where the hogs ran across the field and it came out to around 90 yards. A 22 long rifle is not going to do anything to a wild hog at 90 yards.

Chances are the hogs had been attracted to the field because of the wildlife feeder my wife and I had put up about month ago. The steady supply of corn, plus the acorns from the oak trees are providing a steady supply of food for the hogs.

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AR-15 Bubble Has Popped

It had to happen sooner or later. With demand dropping, and manufacturing at an all time high, sooner or later the bottom had to drop out of the AR-15 market.

Instead of people buying AR-15s as soon as they are on the shelf, I am seeing rifles staying in stores 2, 3 even 4 days before they are selling.

In addition to staying on the shelf, I am seeing multiple rifles in stock at the same time. The local walmart had 2 colts and 1 bushmaster in stock over the course of a weekend.

I hope prices bottom out over the next few months so I can pick up another couple AR-15s.

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Ergo 4255 Vertical Grip Review

The Ergo 4255 is an affordable vertical forearm pistol grip solution for just about anything with a picatinny rail. For this review the test platform was a Palmetto State Armory M4 carbine with pink Magpul and Egro furniture.

There is an old saying, Keep It Simple Stupid, otherwise known as KISS. The Ergo 4255 does just that, it keeps the forearm vertical grip simple.

The Ergo 4255 does not include a built-in light or laser, which makes it an excellent choice for someone who wants just a vertical forearm AR-15 grip.

Excluding a light and laser does two things – it keeps the grip in an affordable price range, and reduces the weight.

Keeping It Simple

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Survivalist And The 270 Winchester

During the recent ammunition shortage several calibers have been in steady supply. Some of those calibers were 204 Ruger, 22-250, 300 WSM, 270 Winchester, 280 Remington and 30-06 Springfield.

Out of all of those calibers, which ones are chambered in a wide variety of rifles? I think it would be a tie between the 270 Winchester and the 30-06 Springfield. The 30-06 being developed in 1906 had a 19 year head start over the 270 Winchester which was revealed to the public in 1925. So its not like either caliber were developed over the past few months.

Why should you pick the 270 Winchester over the 30-06 Springfield?

All things aside, the main reason to go with the 270 Winchester over the 30-06 Springfield is recoil. Unless the shooter has received professional training, as recoil increases, accuracy deceases; studies show the 30-06 is the largest caliber most people can shoot accurately.

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308 SHTF Survival Rifle Cost Of Ownership

Are you considering a rifle chambered in 308 Winchester to help you and your family through a long term SHTF situation? The three main rifles on the market are the M1A, PTR-91 and the FN/FAL. There are a lot of articles out there discussing the points of each rifle. What is rarely talked about is the overall cost of ownership.

Why should we worry about the cost of ownership? You save to buy the rifle, then you find out how expensive spare parts are. To some people, the price of spare parts and magazines might be a deciding factor.

Lets look at 2 topics, spare parts and magazines.

What will not be discussed is tacticool items, such as rails, slings and scopes. With so many options on the market, there is too much to discuss when it comes to scopes and slings.

Lets look at just the basic rifle, something that can be used to protect your property, protect your crops, livestock and hunt with.

Magazines

For this project lets stockpile 25 magazines. This provides 3 rifles with 7 magazines each, and 4 spares.

The following prices are samples taken from random websites.

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AK-47 or AR-15 Which Is Your Choice?

The Military Arms Channel on YouTube has posted another excellent video, this time its about what gun should someone may prefer in a post Democrat election?

For most of you the information covered in the video is very basic and boring. It goes back to whether the shooter likes the AK-47 or the AR-15 better.

There are some good points that are brought up, such as there being no domestic manufacturer of 5.45×39mm ammunition for the AK-74. This is the main reason why I have not bought an AK-74, and I do not want to stockpile yet “another” caliber.

In the video there is a comment that WASR-10 prices are in the $600 price range? I have not confirmed those prices. But if those prices are correct, we are in deep crap as the WASR-10 is made in Romania.

There are two driving factors that would drive up the price of a Romanian made products:

1, Inflation, as in the US dollar is losing value on the international market.

2, Demand is outstripping supply.

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AK-47 Is The Ultimate teotwawki Survival Rifle

Why is the AK-47 is the ultimate survival rifle? Because it works.

  • Year of development: 1947
  • Caliber: 7.62×39
  • Years of service: 1947 – present
  • Nations of service: Every communist nation under the sun
  • Conflicts of service: Just about every major conflict since 1947
  • Bullet diameter: 308 – 311
  • Bullet weight: 123 grains
  • Effective range: 400 meters
  • Capacity: Standard 30 round magazine

The AK-47 is not my primary SHTF survival rifle.

That honor goes to the AR-15 and the FN/FAL.

AR-15 with its 223 Remington / 5.56mm NATO is well suited for dealing undesirable predators that come around the Bug Out Location and small game. There are a good number of people that deer and hogs with the 223 Remington, but I am not one of them. I am a firm believer of using enough gun for the job. When I go deer hunting, I use at least a 270 Winchester or a 280 Remington / 7mm Express.

The low recoil of the AR-15 makes it appealing to people like my teenage daughter.

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Case Against The 300 Blackout

Purpose:: This article is not to discuss the positive or negative points of the 300 Blackout, but rather should survivalist add another caliber to their collection. This is a blog of a survivalist, as such we are going to discuss topics related to prepping / survivalism and from a survivalist point of view.

History: The 300 Blackout was designed to be comparable to the 7.62X39, but to work in the AR platform. Think of a 30-30 short from an AR.

Availability: While the 300 Blackout is available in the AR platform and certain high grade bolt action platforms, it has not made the migration to the lesser expensive bolt action rifles.

When this article was published there are only a handful of bolt action rifles on the market chambered for 300 Blackout. As of early 2012 Savage has cancelled its plans for a 300 Blackout rifle. A Google search for Ruger 300 Blackout did not turn up any company related information.

From a survivalist point of view, why would I want to stockpile yet “another” caliber that is chambered in a limited number of rifles?

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AK-47 For a Long Term SHTF Survival Situation

How well suited is the AK-47 for a long term SHTF survival situation? The answer is part determined in who you ask.

Last weekend my wife and I made a trip to the camp where I fired off a few rounds from the AR15, AK47 and the FN/FAL.

Some people consider it a sin not to clean your firearms immediately after you get home from the range. But on that day the grandkids were over. I did not want the kids messing around while I was trying to clean my rifles. So I decided to wait a few days before cleaning.

The house is quiet today, so I decided to clean my rifles while none of the grandkids are running around.

While I was going over the AK (its a WASR-10), I noticed how much little pieces of rust were building up here and there. The magazine (around 15 years old) is developing rust on it. This is a Chinese made AK47 magazine that I bought sometime in the mid – late 1990s. Well, I bought a lot of AK mags, but we using this one as an example. Just about all of my AK mags have some kind of rust on them.

The WASR-10 is my second AK-47. My first AK was a Maadi and it “somehow” disappeared when my exwife and I divorced. Aint it funny how things just disappear?

Long Term Magazine Storage

One of the problems with my AK mags, is that they have started to rust. Steel rust, that is just the way it is.

Just about all of my AK mags have a rather cheap coating on them. To help prevent the rust, I took a wire wheel on the grinder, buffed the rust off along with the magazine coating and painted the mag with rust-oleum.

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Is the SKS Still a Viable SHTF Survival Rifle

With SKS prices creeping close to the $300 price range, why are they considered a viable option for survivalist,,, or even anyone else? Back in the 1990s when you could pick up an SKS for less then $100, yea, I could see buying one then. But over the past 2 decades prices have steadily gone up, I think to the point where they are not worth the price.

Lets take the Remington model 770 – synthetic stock, factory scope, popular calibers that are more effective on deer sized game then the 7.62X39,,,, and the 770 cost right at the $300 price range.

Last year my nephew used his Remington 770 to take a doe during youth weekend. At around 50 – 75 yards, the 150 grain Remington core-lokt was devastating to the whitetail. The blood trail looked like someone turned on a waterhose.

I can see buying an SKS for its novelty, and for its history, but not for its price. The SKS is not going to be a target rifle like a modern bolt action rifle and the 7.62×39 is not as effective on deer sized game as lets say a 270 or 308.

Cost of the SKS

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Picking a SHTF Survival Rifle Caliber

There is a thread in the forum asking whether the 7mm or 8mm would make a good caliber for a survival rifle. When you walk into a pawn shop and you see a bunch of a certain type of firearms, that is usually not a good sign. If people like a product, they tend to hang onto it.

22 Long Rifle

The 22 long rifle should not need an introduction. The ammunition can be fired in rifles and pistols, firearms are not expensive and they have a long life expectancy. With the low recoil of the 22, parts last long then a full sized rifle caliber.

The low cost of the 22 ammunition makes it attractive to survivalist who want to stockpile thousands or tens of thousands of rounds.

The 22long rifle is effective on small game and does not do a lot of damage to the meat. When you use a 12 gauge on a squirrel, you might have to pick out a bunch of BBs. If you take a squirrel with a 22 short, you have 1 bullet hole.

A couple of my favorite rifles in 22 long rifle include the Marlin Model 60 and the Ruger 10/22. My Ruger 10/22 was bought in January of 1986 and is still going strong.

223 Remington / 5.56mm

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Thoughts on the AR-15 AK-47 and FN/FAL For SHTF

As I am sitting here thinking about another rifle, my thoughts keep turning back to the AR-15. Even though the AK-47 is a little cheaper, its the reliability, cheap ammo, light weight of the weapon, availability of the ammo, shootability,,,,, that keeps me coming back to the AR.

In a SHTF situation, and I had to hand a rifle to my wife, son or daughter, how well would they be able to handle the rifle? That is just one of the many questions I have to ask myself.

In this article we are going to be looking at 3 of the most popular SHTF rifles and battle rifles in the world: the AK-47, AR-15 and the FN/FAL. The AK shoots the 7.62×39, the AR shoots the 223/5.56mm and the FN/FAL shoots the 308 Winchester / 7.62NATO round. These rifles were picked because they have a reputation of being reliable in just about all combat situations and they have been battle proven in several conflicts.

Lets start from the very beginning:

Inserting a Magazine

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Quest for the Best SHTF Survival Rifle

For years, and I mean for “years”, my survival rifle list went something like this – Marlin 336 in 30-30, AR-15, Ruger mini-14, Ruger mini-30, AK-47, Ruger 10/22 and the Marlin model 60. The problem with that list, all of the rifles are short and medium caliber. The largest caliber rifle would have been the marlin 336 in 30-30 or the AK-47 in 7.62×39.

In my opinion, no survival rifle collection is complete without at least a rifle in the 308 Winchester and 30-06 range. When push comes to shove, a survivalist needs a rifle with some knock down power. In north America, the 308 and 30-06 are capable of taking just about any animal, except for the most dangerous grizzly or polar bear. For most applications – whitetail deer, hogs, prong horn, coyote, mule deer,,,,,, the 308 Winchester and 30-06 Springfield can fit the bill.

So where does this leave us? We could go with a bolt action rifle like the Remington model 700, Weatherby Vanguard or the Ruger model 70. But for a long term SHTF survival situation, I would like something with a detachable magazine.

Bolt actions rifles aside, this leaves us with the M1A, PTR-91, and the FN/FAL.

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DS Arms SA58 First Range Report

Before we start on the range report of the DS Arms SA58, here is a little history on how we arrived at this point in time.

October 21st 2010 I started a thread in the forum asking what is the best 308 rifle for the money. There were lots of suggestions thrown around, such as the Springfield M1A, FAL, CETME, PTR-91, Remington model 750 and the DS Arms SA58. After much debate in the forum, the choice was between the DSA SA58 and the Springfield M1A.

Between the Springfield M1A and the DS Arms SA58, I picked the SA58 FAL. The Springfield M1A is a outstanding rifle, but a little bit out of my price range.

My first impressions of the SA58 were very good. The rifle handled very well, shot well, was well balanced, and had very little recoil. The first couple of times I shot the FAL, it was just to make sure the rifle shot ok – “yep, it shoots” kind of thing.

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DS Arms SA58 FAL First Impressions

Long story short – I am impressed with this rifle. Now for the rest of the story.

Back on October 21 I started a thread in the forum asking what was the best 308 semi-auto for the money. There were lots of suggestions thrown around; like the PTR-91, CETME, Springfield M1A, FAL,,,,,. In the end I decided to spend the money for a quality product, and purchased a DS Arms SA58 FAL.

Factory, right of the box – I would compare the recoil to a 30-30. But this is a full sized 308 Winchester.

Is like having the best of 2 worlds:

1 – full powered rifle cartridge.

2 – light recoil

Unlike the Remington model 750 that has a small box magazine, the DS Arms FAL has a 20 round magazine.

When my FAL arrived at the firearms dealer I made the purchase through, I just happened to be on a 3 day camping trip on the Angelina River.

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The WASR-10 AK-47

The WASR-10 AK-47 is a Romanian variant of the Russian AK-47 rifle. The rifles uses a receiver made in the USA, unlike the SAR series that use a Romanian made receiver.

The equivalents with Russian models are:

  • AKM: WASR-10 (7.62×39)
  • AK-74: WASR-2 (5.45×39)
  • AK-101: WASR-3 (5.56×45)

WASR-10 Specs:

  • Overall Length: 35 inches – including muzzle break
  • Barrel: 16 inches – including muzzle break
  • Stock: Wood
  • Pistol grip: Plastic
  • Caliber: 7.62X39

The WASR-10 rifles are made with stamped receivers and were originally intended for single-stack magazines. After the so called “assualt rifle ban” expired, the receivers were milled to accept a double stack, high capacity magazine.

WASR-10 rifles feature a chrome-lined barrel and wooden stocks. The WASR-10 rifles are imported by Century Arms Intl. It is at the Century Arms Intl. factory where they widen the magazine wells and install Tapco-compliant parts.

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