Stockpiling Too Many Types of SHTF Survival Ammunition

In a previous article we talked about stockpiling too many types of survival ammunition. This is a recap of that other article but with some new thoughts on the topic added.

Just in case you have not been paying attention, here lately certain types of ammunition is getting difficult to find.  Just about all of the surplus ammo has dried up and a lot of the bulk stuff is sold out.

Stockpiling ammunition for SHTF

My local walmart here in Jasper Texas barely gets any American Eagle 223 in stock, and rarely gets Federal 308 Winchester.  Remington Core-Lokt in 308 Winchester is right at $19.96.  Its pretty sick when 308 is $1 a pop.  My dad has some boxes of 30-06 at the camp that has a price tag of $13.96.  I wish I would have bought a truck load of ammo back when it was cheap.

Over the past few years I have been buying cheap and stacking deep.  The problem with buying cheap, you get steel cased ammo.  This means a lot of my 223 and 7.62×39 is steel cased.  The time has come to move past the steel cased ammo.  So I have started buying American Eagle 223 and Federal bulk packs of 223.

One of the problems with owning firearms of various calibers, the more calibers you have, you have to stockpiling various types of ammunition.

My wife and I are going to Nacogdoches Texas on June 11, 2012.  On the way we are going to pass through Lufkin.  While in Lufkin we are going to stop at the academy sports and outdoors.  At Academy I will be looking for Monarch 223 and Monarch 7.62×39.

The walmart website says the Lufkin store is sold out of Federal 308 and American Eagle 223, so I see no use in stopping at walmart.  But then again, the walmart website says the Woodville store has American Eagle 223 in stock.  But when I called the Woodville store, the lady told me they were out of stock.  I guess the walmart website is hit and miss on its inventory system.  My wife and I might stop at the Lufkin walmart store just to be sure.

Stockpiling food and ammunition for long term SHTF situation
Stockpiling food and ammunition for long term SHTF situation

The walmart website says the Nacogdoches store has both Federal 308 and American Eagle in stock.

Here we are looking at hitting 3 different stores for just 3 types of ammo.  Academy sports and outdoors is the only place I get 7.62×39 from.  If you take 7.62×39 out of the equation, we are looking at hitting 3 different stores for only 223 and 308.

We have not even talked about 30-06, 30-30, 270 Winchester or 280 Remington / 7mm Express.

30-06 and 280 Remington has gotten outrageously expensive.  280 / 7mm express has been expensive for a long time, with a price of around $25 a box for 20 rounds of Remington Core-Lokt.


Panic Buying

One of my concerns, the closer we get to the 2012 elections, the more panic buying people will do.

Instead of mandating people buy insurance, why didn’t president obama mandate people buy ammunition?

Everytime a democrat gets into office panic buying kicks in.  People start buying everything they can get their hands on. A couple of days after obama was elected, a local gun store jacked the prices of their military rifles up 3X. Almost overnight a WASR-10 went from $400 to $1,200. When I saw those prices, I sore I would never buy another gun from them again.

When bill clinton was elected, I saw gun stores jack their prices up almost double overnight.

So its not only the scarcity of firearms and ammunition, its also the price gouging from people looking to make a quick buck.

Compounded with the economy and civil unrest (example: the occupy movement) I look for panic buying to be rather bad this year, and I look for prices to go up.

Political Tensions

Then there is the Iran conflict. Worse case situation, some kind of widespread middle east conflict erupts, the U.S. government needing as much ammo as it can get suspends all ammunition sales to the public.  In which case we are only left with what we have on hand.

Tensions are rising with Pakistan
Israel is beating the war drums over Iran
North Korea is causing issues
Russia is upset over U.S. missiles in Europe
A conflict with Iran poses to upset the flow of oil to China
Russia and China are upset with U.S. imperialism in the middle east

The U.S. has been poking its nose into middle east business for well over a decade. Sooner or later something will have to give. Russia and China are both upset that the U.S. has pushed its military might right up to the border of both nations. Its as if the U.S. is trying to push China and Russia into a corner.

People are not totally ignorant, for the most part we watch the news and listen to the radio. All of this has to be sitting in the back of your head.

Too Many Calibers

Anyone been paying attention to the various types of calibers being released on the market over the past few years?

  • 6.8 mm Remington SPC
  • 300 Blackout
  • 204 Ruger
  • 300 Winchester Short Magnum
  • 270 Winchester Short Magnum

To only name a few.

How many calibers does the market need?

Having to many calibers can create a lot of issues.

1 – If you have a team, trying to get everyone to agree on a caliber can be difficult, especially when people start talking about buying new rifles.

2 – Lets say you wanted to stockpile 1,000 rounds. Would you rather stockpile 200 rounds for 5 different calibers, or 500 rounds for 2 different calibers?

3 – Spare parts. If you have 4, 5 or 6 different rifles in various calibers, what are you going to do for spare parts? Money only goes so far.

Stockpiling Oddball Calibers

I am the only person I know that shoots a 7mm Express / 280 Remington. How fair would it for me to ask family members and friends to stockpile a caliber they do not shoot?

My personal opinion, if you shoot an oddball caliber, it is your responsibility to stockpile ammo and spare parts for your specialty calibers and rifles.

Then there is the price and availability of oddball calibers. For my 280 Remington, I have to drive 100 miles to Academy Sports and Outdoors in Beaumont Texas to buy a box. Its either drive 100 miles or order online. But either way, 280 Remington cost more then either 270, 308 or 30-06.

For cost and availability, lets stick with popular calibers. If you buy an oddball caliber, it is your responsibility to supply ammunition and spare parts.

Stockpiling Popular Calibers

How many times do we need to beat this dead horse?

.30 caliber survival rifle

  • 9mm
  • 40 S&W
  • 45acp
  • 357 magnum
  • 22 long rifle
  • 223 Remington / 5.56mm
  • 243 Winchester
  • 270 Winchester
  • 7.62×39
  • 30-30 Winchester
  • 308 Winchester
  • 30-06 Springfield

When I look at buying a new rifle with a caliber I do not currently have, I look at 4 things – price, effectiveness, availability and spare parts.

Price – you might find that great deal on a rifle at the gun shop, but when the ammunition is $40 a box, is it a great deal in the long run?

Effectiveness – how effective is the caliber and rifle on the game you plan on hunting?  I live in Southeast Texas, the largest game we have around here is wild hogs and deer.  There is the occasional black bear, but bears are very rare.  Anything in the 270 range and up is very effective on deer sized game.  Shots are rarely over 125 yards, which means the 30-30 and 308 is going to be perfect.

Availability – As with the 280 / 7mm Express example earlier in the article, how readily available is the ammunition and spare parts?

Spare parts – What good does it do to buy an exotic rifle if you can not find spare parts?  I would love to have a Galil, but how difficult are spare parts going to be to find?

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