When I got my Remington model 700 in 280 I wanted something that was around the 270 or 30-06, and something that would work on heavier game such as elk and moose.
In all honestly I put too much though into picking the 280 Remington. While it is a fine caliber, the price of ammunition has gone up so much shooting has gotten downright expensive. With a box of 20 rounds costing more than $25 stockpiling is cost prohibitive.
Here we are approaching the half-way mark of the year (we are not there yet), and the ammunition shortage is showing no signs of letting up.
22 Long Rifle – I have not seen 22 long rifle in about 6 or 7 months. The last time I can remember seeing 22 long rifle in stock was back around November,,, maybe even October 2012.
Even before Sandy Hook 22 long rifle was difficult to find.
223 Remington – Is hit sand miss. Places like Palmetto State Armory have been getting bulk 223 Remington in stock, but my local wal-mart has not.
I have not seen American Eagle or Federal at my local wal-mart in months. The local wal-mart here in Jasper Texas has been getting Tula in every few weeks, so that is what I have been buying. In this type of situation you buy what you can find.
Online stores that are lucky enough to 223/5.56mm in stock are sold out in a matter of minutes.
Over the past few days I have been thinking about a lot of stuff. A lot of small stuff, to small to make their own post about. So I thought I would combine a lot of small topics into a random thoughts post.
I promised a buddy of mine that I would tone the political stuff down. Rather than posting political topics here, I will keep them on PBJ News. So here goes.
Video Gaming -I guess it is a matter of me getting older, but fewer and fewer games have that “wow” factor. Back in the 1980s and 1990s some of my buddies and I could play Atari and Super Nintendo for hours at a time.
Now, its takes a lot of keep me interested in a game. Borderlands 2 got boring within 2 hours and Skyrim lost it after maybe 2 – 3 hours. The only game that has been able to keep my interest over the past 3 years had been Left 4 Dead 1 & 2. Since Diablo III has the always on internet requirement I did not even bother buying it.
Seems Hitler is pissed about Brownells PMAG backorder problem. At 30 seconds into the video, its said Brownells shipped pmags to some guy on AR15 forum who ordered his the week before. I do not know if this is true or not, its just what the video says.
I ordered my PMAGS from Brownells on December 19, 2012. As of January 29, 2013 they still have not shipped.
I also have a PMAG order in at LaRue Tactical, placed on the same day as the Brownells order, and the LaRue Tactical order has not shipped yet either.
After all of this panic buying does down this should make for some interesting topics of conversation.
In all honesty I did not expect the ammunition shortage to go this long. There is talk that its going to get worse.
When Obama and Dianne Feinstein opened their mouths about gun control in the wake of Sandy Hook, gun owners went into a panic buying frenzy.
Shelves have been empty for close to a month. Sandy Hook shooting happened on Friday December 14, 2012. The following week guns and ammunition were flying off the shelves.
Here we are a month later, December 14, 2012 – January 14, 2013, the situation has gone from bad to worse.
Pistol ammunition – gone
Rifle ammunition – gone
22 long rifle – gone
Shotgun – hit and miss
Bolt action and lever action ammunition such as 270 Winchester, 30-30 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield and 45-70 is still on the shelves. The ammunition that is still available has gone up in price over the past month.
November 2012 30-30 Winchester was $15.97 for a box of 20 rounds. During the first week of January 2013 that same box was $16.97. A year ago 30-30 Winchester was selling for $13.97 a box. What is that, close to a 20% increase in a year?
As 2012 is drawing to a close, lets take a few minutes to reflect. What did we learn and where do we need to go from here?
What did you learn in the past year?
I learned a lot about chickens – difference in the various breeds, how much room they need, chicken coop design, chicken yard size and nutrition requirements,, only to name a few.
What I learned in the past year is only a drop in the bucket. After my wife and I get moved to the homestead we plan on almost doubling the size of our chicken flock. Currently my wife and I have 13 hens and no roosters. After we get moved we will probably increase the size of the flock to around 24 or 25 hens, and one rooster.
The next step in my chicken project will be to develop a self-sustaining chicken flock.
Once the flock size is increased, the chicken coop will probably be too small. One of the next steps after getting moved will be to build a larger coop. But we are getting way ahead of ourselves.
Learned some general information on goats – my wife and I are not ready to get goats as of yet.
A couple of months ago I talked with a man who teaches agriculture at a local high school. He told me about the Nigerian dwarf goat, which I am considering.
How fast things can go downhill – the Newtown shootings and the venom filled words of the gun haters drove panic buying. What surprised me was how fast physical stores and internet stores sold out.
AR-15 and AK-47 prices – doubled and tripled in a just a few days. Colt 6920 that sold at walmart for $1,100 was selling on auction sites for $3,000. Sig Sauer M400 that walmart had on black friday for less then $900 is selling for $1,900. WASR-10 that used to sell for $400 is now selling for $700 – $900.
Magazine prices – 30 round aluminum AR-15 magazines went from $10 each to $100 each. Pmags went from $16 to $150 each.
Ammunition availability – not only were people buying guns, bolt carriers and upper receivers, they were also buying all the ammunition they could get their hands on. For the first time in my life I have seen ammunition supplies stripped. And its not just 223 Remington and 7.62X39 that people were buying, they were buying hand calibers and 22 long rifle.
The simply fact is, if you did not have it, you were not going to get it.
Never underestimate human greed, and underestimate large numbers of people panic buying.
Its a good thing were panic buying buns and ammunition, and not food. If food had been stripped like ammunition, there would be a lot of hungry people.
As liberals and gun haters dance in the blood of children in their call for new gun laws, survivalist need to wake up. SHTF comes in a wide range of disasters. Sometimes its hurricanes, earthquakes or other natural disasters, sometimes its losing a job or financial collapse,,,.
In the case of December 2012, it was a crazy kid with a gun that gave liberals and gun haters the needed fuel to call for more gun laws.
Over the course of a few days gun stores were stripped of every AR-15 they had, and all of the ammunition they had in stock.
The following days people became desperate to get their hands on an AR-15, magazines and ammunition.
Some examples include:
Colt 6920 for $4,000
Ebay – (2) (TWO) AR-15 NEW, Aluminum NATO 5.56 AR15 M4 30 Round .223 Magazine Magazines Winning price: $315.00 (24 Bids)
Bushmaster patrol rifle – $2,299.00
PTR-91 – $2,275
S&W M&P 15 – $2,000
Ebay – Magpul PMAG 30 MagLevel, Black with Window & Dust cover NWT $65.00
Ebay – 3 Magpul PMAG 5.56×45/.223 $165.00
Ebay – Two BRAND NEW IN BAG black Magpul PMAG 30 5.56/.223 $95.00 (sold)
Ebay – Magpul PMAG 223 5.56 Black High Cap Mags 30 Round $39.95 (10 available / 40 sold)
GunsAmerica – Colt 6920 M4 rifle $3,400.00
For well over a year I had been sitting on the fence on buying a new AR. Then came the Connecticut school shooting and renewed calls for banning so called “assault rifles.” At the time it seemed the crazy politicians finally had the fuel they needed to drive some form of gun control through congress.
Congress was out for the holidays, so its doubtful anything could be done until January. The president had the financial cliff to deal with, which means gun control was going to be on the back burner for a few weeks.
The actions of Adam Lanza and the venom filled words of anti-gun members of congress lead the shooting sports community to believe we were looking at a new assault rifle ban. If you do not have it now, chance are you are not going to get it. In response to the current events, I jumped off the fence and got serious about buying an AR-15.
Magpul posted a comment on their facebook page about the recent price increases,
We’ve received a lot of comments about some retailers charging extremely high prices for our products.
We strongly discourage pricing strategies like this with our direct customers, as we just don’t feel right about it. Those retailers who are buying through distribution, and not direct, may be worried about supply and reacting to the market with this pricing increase.
We are firm believers in free capitalism, and as long as no one is damaging market value through their pricing strategy, we will allow the market to correct this situation, as it appears it already is. We intend to continue to produce and sell our products to support the MSRPs we have set.
Magazines will continue to flow to those retailers, distributors, and OEM customers with whom we have direct relationships.
That is all fine and dandy, but talk is cheap.
If Magpul “really” wanted to make a statement, then cease operations with companies that are doing the price gouging.
Is Magpul going to sit by and let resellers gouge their customers? Or is Magpul going to make a statement? The least they can do is investigate, and then cease operations with resellers who are gouging the public.
This post is for the sake of prosperity, and for historical purposes. I feel that it is important to document what happened politically and in the shooting sports industry shortly after the Sandy Hook school shooting.
December 14, 2012 – Adam Peter Lanza fatally shot his mother, Nancy Lanza, and Stole 2 pistols and a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle. Adam Peter Lanza then drove to Newtown, Connecticut where he processed to enter the Sandy Hook Elementary School. After entering the school, Adam killed 26 people. The victims included twenty children and six adult staff members.
As emergency responders entered the building Adam killed himself.
The nation is shocked that anyone could inflict so much violence on children.
December 15 and 16, 2012 – News starts coming out that Adam suffered from Asperger’s syndrome, which is a form of autism.
Dianne Feinstein and Joe Lieberman vowed to introduce legislation to ban “assault weapons and high-capacity magazines”.
Cerberus Capital Management says they are going to sell Freedom Group, which is the owner of Bushmaster, as well as several other firearms companies. The news focuses on Cerberus Capital Management, Freedom Group and Bushmaster. There is no mention that Freedom Group also owns Remington, Marlin and several other brandnames.
In his speech at the December 16 vigil, Obama called for a renewed push for a better America, using “whatever power this office holds”.
The Military Arms Channel on youtube has posted another excellent video, this time its about what gun should someone buy post election?
For most of you the information covered in the video is very basic and boring. It goes back to whether the shooter likes the AK-47 or the AR-15 better.
There are some good points that are brought up, such as there being no domestic manufacturer of 5.45×39mm ammunition for the AK-74. This is the main reason why I have not bought an AK-74, and I do not want to stockpile yet “another” caliber.
In the video there is a comment that WASR-10 prices are in the $600 price range? I have not confirmed those prices. But if those prices are correct, we are in deep crap as the WASR-10 is made in Romania.
There are two driving factors that would drive up the price of a Romanian made products:
1, Inflation, as in the US dollar is losing value on the international market.
2, Demand is outstripping supply.
Before and after a democrat is elected president there is usually some level of panic buying. But to make the price of a rifle double? Something is wrong there.
When a bottom of the barrel AK-47 cost more then an AR-15, its time to stop buying AK-47s. Let demand drop, surpluses will rise, and prices will go down. In all honesty, there is no excuse for a foreign made AK-47 to cost over around $300, and includes Russian and Chinese made AKs.
However, as the value of the US dollar continues to drop, foreign made products will continue to go up in price.
There is another issue that might be driving up prices, and that is good ole capiticalsm. If someone is willign to pay $600 for a bottom of the barrel WASR-10, then the company is going to mark the prices as such.
I remember Russian made AK-47s selling for $75 in the late 1980s. I wish I would have bought a case of them.
Just before Hurricane Rita made landfall I observed something that I probably will never forget, and that was a guy with a lowboy trailer loaded with 55 gallon drums. He was at the gas station filling up the drums – and we wonder why gas stations run out of fuel so fast during a disaster?
I am as guilty as the next person about panic buying. When the word comes that a hurricane is heading our way, my wife and I will take a trip to the local china-mart to pick up a few last minute items.
There is a difference in picking up a “few” items, and trying to stockpile several weeks worth of food in one trip.
Every time a hurricane comes around, people will kick into high gear panic buying mode. They run down to the store and start buying everything in sight.
As hurricane Ike was approaching a few years ago, I heard people at china-mart talking about how the store was out of this or that. The people that were talking agreed to buy “something”. That “something” was whatever was left on the shelves.
Its that “we have nothing, so we have to buy anything” desperation that makes the whole situation worse. People walk around china-mart, their eyes have a semi-blank stare, and their mouths slightly open, kinda like a deer in the headlights.
When my wife and I go to china-mart before the landfall of a hurricane, its to pick up some bread, maybe a gallon of milk, maybe some more bottled water,,,. Its not that we are out, or need the items, we just want a couple of extra.
Stress levels go up as the hurricane approaches landfall. The unprepared sheeple make the situation worse because they are in panic buying mode.
Some of the things to disappear during panic buying (from my observations anyway)
Bought some Monarch 308 from Academy sports and outdoors
Fired off a few rounds and took pictures
Its an election year, and a democrap is president. Every election year there is a rush on guns and ammunition. When a democrap is in office, the panic buying gets really bad. People are worried about the glorious dicktator obama stripping us of our rights. So what do we do? We stock up.
Our glorious dicktator obama has done more to promote panic buying then any other president I can remember (I am 44 years old).
When bill clinton was elected office, and when the assault rifle ban was passed, people freaked out and bought everything in sight. Every time the dicktator opens his mouth gun sales spike.
We just “thought” bill clinton was bad.
It is not “just” the elections, people are worried about the economy, jobs, tensions with iran, tensions with china. To be perfectly honest, people are worried.
308 getting scarce
I do not know if my local walmart in Jasper, Texas does not order 308 Winchester, or they can not get in. But either way, I have not seen Remington core-lokt 150 grain 308 Winchester in a couple of months. I have not seen Federal in maybe 2 months or so.
308 supplies online seem to be drying up, or at the very least hit and miss. Someone might have 308 in stock for a couple of days, and then they are sold out.
If I did order online, all I would be getting is FMJ. Yea FMJ is cheap, it works, but its not very good for hunting. Sure FMJ pokes a hole, but some expansion would be nice.
Academy sports and outdoors sells a Monarch brand ammunition in a wide range of calibers. For the past 5 or 6 years all I have shot out of my AK47 is steel cased Monarch. Since it shoots good out of the AK, I decided to pick up a couple of box in 308 Winchester.
There is enough fear mongering these days without my help. With that in mind, please remember that this article is just my personal opinion and it not meant to interpreted as fact.
I feel that we are in a calm before the storm. Not necessarily a SHTF storm, but a panic buying storm.
From August 2011 until the first part of 2012:
August and September: Kids are starting back to school in the next few days, parents are having to buy back to school supplies, clothes, meet the teachers and get their kids shots caught up. Right “now” parents have a lot to think about and worry about besides prepping.
People have stuff to keep their minds occupied until the first part of 2012. After the turn of the year, I look for people attention to turn towards world events and the direction this nation is going.
After new years I think is when the panic buying mode is going to kick in – and especially after people start getting their income taxes back.
2012 - As 2012 progresses and the election season turns hostile, there is going to be a lot of propaganda on TV and the internet about the various people running for office. I look for this propaganda to have a side effect on the voters, and that is spreading fear through the general public.
I look for the debt talks to resume again, and I look for tension between the USA and the rest of the world (especially China) to increase.
Around April and May 2012 – is when I look for the panic buying to pick up, especially with the poor and low middle classes. This is when people will start getting their income tax returns. Instead of buying TVs, and other toys, people might turn to buying firearms, ammo and food.
Over the next few months (August – December 2011) people are going to be forking out money on school supplies, clothes, labor day, holidays, Christmas, new years,,,,,,,. This is why I look for the “real” panic buying to kick in after people start getting their income taxes back in early – mid 2012. Having to buy school supplies and getting ready for the holidays does not leave a lot of money for prepping.
My personal plan, and I am not suggesting that people do this, but buy whatever long term food supplies you can afford. If you have been thinking about buying #10 cans of freeze dried foods, please do so.
One of the issues with buying SHTF survival gear, it leaves less money for other stuff. Do not overspend on preps. Whenever possible, put money into a rainy day fund. If the federal government shuts the banks down, you want enough cash on hand for food and fuel.
When people start getting their income tax returns back, and have some extra money, that is when people might start buying in bulk.
Over the past few months I have been stockpiling fishing supplies like crazy. Everytime my wife and I went to the local sporting goods store I would grab some hooks, trotline string, artificial worms, extra monofilament line, new fishing pole and reel,,,,,.
On top of the fishing supplies I have been stocking up on food in mylar bags, canned goods and #10 cans.
Do I expect some kind of civil unrest, no,, or rather I hope not. With the extreme drought in Texas, crops are dying in the fields, and people are having to sell off their livestock, what kind of impact on food prices can we expect due to the failed crops, I do not know.
I want to be as honest as possible, and say right up front, I do not know what the future holds. I suspect food prices will go up, but only time will tell.
Over the next few months my preps will focus on food – and that means everything from mylar bags, to canned goods, to #10 cans of freeze dried foods.
Save as money as possible
Buy as much food as your family can afford
Get caught up on your bills
Do not have any outstanding credit card bills
Do not have any high interest loans
Secure your possessions and your property
Communicate with your family about your plans