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Firearm for Rural Bug Out Location

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What is your ideal firearm for a rural small farm (Bug Out Location)? Purpose is to protect property and livestock. For this article, lets say the setting can be during normal everyday life, and during a long term SHTF / TEOTWAWKI event.

.30 caliber survival rifleDuring a SHTF setting, livestock are going to be very difficult to replace.

Its 10 pm, your chickens start making a fuss, what firearm do you grab? Do you use a shotgun, small caliber rifle, medium caliber rifle, or something else?

One of my ideal setups would be for a rifle and a pistol setup to share the same caliber.  There are several manufacturers that make carbines in various pistol calibers, such as the 17 HMR, 22 long rifle, 9mm, 357 magnum and 45 acp.

This article will be divided into 3 phases, discussion on shotguns, small calibers for everyday life, larger calibers for post-SHTF / a world without law. Since followup shots may be needed rather quickly, single shot firearms will not be discussed.

Shotgun

While a shotgun may be ideal for nighttime, there is a high risk of collateral damage. We want to protect the livestock, and not take the livestock out along with the predator.

Even though the Mossberg 590 is one of my favorite SHTF shotguns, I do not think it is appropriate for livestock protection. The 590 does not have a choke that can be used to change the pattern of the shot. The short barrel of the Mossberg 590 will have a negative effect on the shot pattern as well.

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Trip to the Bug Out Location June 2012

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Cleaning up at the Bug Out LocationMan oh man, what a weekend. In a previous article we talked about survivalism as an experience and not a theory. Part of my prepping for SHTF / TEOTWAWKI includes going to the Bug Out Location for a couple of days, taking notes, figuring out what needs to be changed, and going from there.

Its one thing to say, “if the crap hits the fan, this is what I am going to do,,,,”.

Its another thing to put those plans to the test on a regular, or at the very least a semi-regular basis.

In this article we are going to be discussing my observations from the June 30 – July 1 trip.  Feel free to share your questions and/or comments.

On Saturday, June 30, 2012 my wife and I loaded up the Tahoe with basic gear, and headed to the Bug Out Location.  Some of the stuff we packed included change of clothes, food, ammunition, firearms,, drinks, laptop, cell phone,,, just your basic stuff.

A few hours after arriving at the camp, my wife and I were joined my a buddy of mine, his wife, and their daughter.

Safe Drinking Water – The main problem we faced over the weekend was access to safe drinking water.  The water well is not used very often, so the water develops a sulfur smell and taste.  Also, the well pump runs off electricity.

During a long term SHTF situation, the well would be pretty much useless.

The well itself was hand dug around 100 years ago.  Over the past century soil sediment has been slowly filling the well up.  Then there are the leaves that make their way into the well.  One time a feral cat fell into the well and died.  The cat carcass had to be fished out, then bleach poured into the well.

Sooner or later we will have to drive a new well, and at the very least have a hand pump.

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Firearm for a river camping trip

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AK-47 AR-15 Survival RiflesA buddy of mine and I are planning a 100+ mile 3 – 4 day river camping trip. On this trip we will be going into some pretty remote areas. After we put our boats in the river, there are no boat launches for probably 50+ miles. The location is East Texas on the Sabine river.

I would like to bring either a rifle or shotgun for personal protection. Black bears are known to be in the area where we are going, as well as everything from coyotes to wild hogs.

I am more concerned about running into a rabid raccoon, then having problems with a black bear, but you never know.

The options are:

AR15
AK47
Mossberg 590
Ruger 10/22

My first choice is the Ruger 10/22. Its lightweight, ammo is easy to carry and the 22 has a low report.

My second choice is either the Mossberg 590 or AK-47.

The mossberg loaded with slugs or buckshot is capable to taking down anything in this part of Texas.  I mounted a Surefire light on the Mossberg 590 last night.  In a marshy area, having a weapon with a light on it sure could come in handy.

The thing with the AK, its reliable. I dont think I have to worry about the AK getting muddy and not working.  At this time I do not have a light mounted on the AK, but I am working on it.

My third choice is the AR-15. The 223 is loud, and I am not sure how the 223 would work on black bear if one where to enter our camp site.  I have some parts ordered to mount a light on the AR.  It should be ready in plenty of time for the trip.

I am not “that” concerned about black bears, but I think they should be taken into consideration.

If I wanted a weapon with a light, the choices would be either the Mossberg 590 or the AR15.

Pistols:

I thought about bringing a pistol, but some law enforcement people get pissy when you have a pistol.

Post your comments in this forum thread about taking a firearm on a river camping trip.  There is a poll in that forum thread.  If you do not want to post any comments, at the very least log-in and place your vote.

 

Post Apocalyptic Survival Gear

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List of survival gear that I think would be useful in a post apocalyptic world.

1. Knowledge – This starts with having an understanding of how the human species acts during a long term survival situation. Find some history books on amazon about the black death of 1348 – 1350. Read those books and get a grasp on how people acted and what they resorted to. Some of the stories look like they came straight out of a Hollywood movie – like starving people digging up dead bodies to cannibalize the remains.

Part of your survival library should include resource material on gardening, raising livestock and farming.

First aid manuals with information on diseases and wound treatment.

2. Water filter – Without safe drinking water, life as we know it can not exist. Diseases like Cholera, Typhoid, E. Coli, Cryptosporidiosis, Giardiasis, Shigella and Salmonella can wipe out entire communities in a matter of days.

There are water filters, and then there are “water filters.”  If you have a family with 4, 5 6,,, 12 people, then adjust your water filter size to fits your needs.

Then there is the problem of drinking water in an urban survival situation. Most people that live in cities do not have access to a water well or a creek or stream. Once the water gets cut off, thats it.

Related Article:  Survivalist Water Filter Options

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Best rifle and shotgun for survival

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If you were going to pick two firearms – 1 small caliber rifle, 1 medium or large caliber rifle, or a shotgun, which firearms would it be?  These do not “have” to be considered survival rifles or a survival shotgun, but firearms that you may shoot with all year long.  The two firearm combination should be diverse enough to take everything from small game to the largest game in your area.  Someone that lives in Alaska and who might run into a grizzly bear will have different rifles needs then someone that lives in Texas or Florida – because there aint no grizzly bears in Texas or Florida.

The purpose of a “survival firearm” is a little different then a Main Battle Rifle (MBR).  While an MBR is designed for the military and combat, survivalist need something that is not expensive, very reliable, and effective for harvesting wild game.  Which would be the better invest, a single M1a or 3 Marlin 336s in 30-30?  Price is a factor here.  For certain people money may not be an issue.  But for most people, dropping $1,000 into a single rifle is just not feasible.

Marlin model 336 and Marlin model 60:

white tail deer and atv

Whitetail deer taken with a Marlin 336 in 30-30

Marlin model 336 – chambered in 30-30 is more then adequate for just about anything in the southern United States.  The recoil of the 30-30 is not excessive, the ammunition is popular so it can be found just about anywhere, the ammunition is not expensive – so its not going to cost a fortune to stockpile 30-30 ammo, the rifle itself is not expensive – so buying more then 1 is not going to break the bank.

Lets just say that I like the Marlin 336 so much, that all three of my sons have 1.  In all, my family has at least 4 Marlin 336 rifles.

When a new rifle cartridge is developed is does not take long for the public to form an opinion.  From there the cartridge will take off and get popular, or its going to be forgotten about and will fade away to history.  The popularity of the 30-30 is a testament to its reliability and stopping power for deer sized game.  If the 30-30 was not an effective round, it would not be as popular as it is today.

Marlin model 60 – probably one of the best 22 rifles on the market.  The model 60 is a tube fed, semi-auto rifle chambered in 22 long rifle – and its reliable and accurate.

The light weight of the Marlin model 60, combined with the 22 long rifle, makes this a great rifle for hunting squirrels and rabbits.  This rifle is capable of taking  anything smaller then a coyote, and without destroying a lot of the meat.

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