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Stockpiling too many types of ammunition

Stockpiling ammunition for SHTFIn a previous article we talked about stockpiling too many types of survival ammunition. This is a recap of that other article but with some new thoughts on the topic added.

Just in case you have not been paying attention, here lately certain types of ammunition is getting difficult to find.  Just about all of the surplus ammo has dried up and a lot of the bulk stuff is sold out.

My local walmart here in Jasper Texas barely gets any American Eagle 223 in stock, and rarely gets Federal 308 Winchester.  Remington Core-Lokt in 308 Winchester is right at $19.96.  Its pretty sick when 308 is $1 a pop.  My dad has some boxes of 30-06 at the camp that has a price tag of $13.96.  I wish I would have bought a truck load of ammo back when it was cheap.

Over the past few years I have been buying cheap and stacking deep.  The problem with buying cheap, you get steel cased ammo.  This means a lot of my 223 and 7.62×39 is steel cased.  The time has come to move past the steel cased ammo.  So I have started buying American Eagle 223 and Federal bulk packs of 223.

One of the problems with owning firearms of various calibers, the more calibers you have, you have to stockpiling various types of ammunition.

My wife and I are going to Nacogdoches Texas on June 11, 2012.  On the way we are going to pass through Lufkin.  While in Lufkin we are going to stop at the academy sports and outdoors.  At Academy I will be looking for Monarch 223 and Monarch 7.62×39.

The walmart website says the Lufkin store is sold out of Federal 308 and American Eagle 223, so I see no use in stopping at walmart.  But then again, the walmart website says the Woodville store has American Eagle 223 in stock.  But when I called the Woodville store, the lady told me they were out of stock.  I guess the walmart website is hit and miss on its inventory system.  My wife and I might stop at the Lufkin walmart store just to be sure.

Stockpiling food and ammunition for long term SHTF situation

Stockpiling food and ammunition for long term SHTF situation

The walmart website says the Nacogdoches store has both Federal 308 and American Eagle in stock.

Here we are looking at hitting 3 different stores for just 3 types of ammo.  Academy sports and outdoors is the only place I get 7.62×39 from.  If you take 7.62×39 out of the equation, we are looking at hitting 3 different stores for only 223 and 308.

We have not even talked about 30-06, 30-30, 270 Winchester or 280 Remington / 7mm Express.

30-06 and 280 Remington has gotten outrageously expensive.  280 / 7mm express has been expensive for a long time, with a price of around $25 a box for 20 rounds of Remington Core-Lokt.

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Stockpiling ammo for shtf

survivalist riflesHow much ammo should I stockpile for SHTF? If teotwawki happened tomorrow, how much ammo should I have? What types of ammo should I have for SHTF? How much ammo should I have for teotwawki?

Those are all questions that I see repeated on the forum over and over, time and time again. So lets talk about them just for a minute.

Lets break down ammo into 2 groups – personal defense and hunting.

Pistol ammo: How much pistol ammo do you “really” need? What will your pistol be used for? Will it be for personal defense or hunting? Are we talking 22 long rifle, 9mm, 45acp, 40S&W, 357 magnum, 41 magnum, 44 magnum,,, or something else?

From the price stand point, its going to be a lot cheaper to stockpile 5,000 rounds of 22 long rifle, then it is to stockpile 5,000 rounds of 357 magnum. Its going to be cheaper to stockpile 5,000 rounds of round nose, then 5,000 rounds of hollow points. Do you “really” need to stock up on hollow points, or is it something that you just want to have?

Pistol ammo used for hunting: Except for 22 long rifle, this is going to be your magnum calibers – 357 magnum, 41 magnum and 44 magnum. In this group I would put a number of at least 500 rounds. That 500 could be divided in half – 1/2 stored at your home, and 1/2 stored at your bug out location / remote camp. If you have to leave your home, and only have time to grab your pistol – this leaves you with 250 rounds once you reach your bug out location.  Keep that 250 rounds in mind for later.

Pistol ammo for personal defense:  This can be just about anything, (except the 22 long rifle, and 25acp) – 9mm, 40S&W, 45acp, 357sig, 357 magnum, 41 magnum, 44 magnum,,,,,,.  For this group, I put a number closer to 1,000 rounds per caliber.

Dividing ammo between people in the group:  Some kind of situation has developed – a new disease has broke out, china launched a nuclear strike against the major cities,,,,,, whatever has happened, you have enough time to grab some gear and get out of town.  You and your family safely arrive at your bug out location, and a few days later your buddies show up.  These are people that you made plans ahead of time.  To streamline ammo purchases, everyone has bought a weapon that shoots the same caliber.  For the sake of discussion, lets use 357 magnum.

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Best survivalist pistol caliber

survivalist pistol caliberThis topic has already been touched on in this post – Best Pistol Caliber for a Survivalist. But I wanted to touch on it again.

When picking the caliber for a survival situation, several factors should be considered:

Effective stopping power – how effective is the caliber against a given target.  The 22 long rifle is great on small game, but terrible on grizzly bear.  So use a caliber that is appropriate for the target.

Recoil – how much recoil does the caliber have?  Try to pick something that most members of the family can shoot.  There are people out there that will buy a 454 casull with no thought to how well their 14 year old daughter can shoot the pistol.

Price – how much does a box of ammo cost?  Its not cost effective to buy some odd-ball caliber that cost $30 for a box of 50 rounds – not when you can get other calibers for a lot cheaper.

Pistol and Carbine – does the caliber have a pistol and carbine rifle option?  Lets take the 357 magnum for example.  There are lots of pistols for the 357, and several rifles, like the Marlin 1894 and the Henry Big Boy.

My 5 top picks for a survivalist pistol calibers:
5.  22 long rifle – effective on small game, ammo is cheap to stockpile, wide range of pistols and rifles on the market.

4.  38 special -low recoil, easy to reload, lots of brass and good selection of bullets for reloading.

3 & 2.  45acp and 9mm – two of the most popular rounds of all time, easy to reload, wide selection of pistols and a few rifles.

1.  357 magnum – effective on deer sized game, easy to reload, wide range of pistols to pick from, a few rifles to pick from.

Special mention:
41 magnum
44 magnum
40S&W
357 sig

I’am pretty sure there are a lot of people that would like to see the 44 magnum listed in the top 5 – but due to the excessive recoil, the 44 magnum has to get a special mention.

Post your comments in this forum thread about the best pistol caliber for survival.

  



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