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Is the AR-10 platform needed

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There is an article on AllOutdoor.com talking about Heavy duty SHTF battle rifles.  The picture used for the article shows an AR-10 next to an FN/FAL.  Looking at the picture I have to ask myself, why do we need an AR-10 in a niche that is already full?

The right arm of the free world, the FN/FAL that has been in service since 1954.  As of 2015 that is 61 years.

M1A, which is based off the M14, battle proven, reliable, marksmanship rifle has been in service since 1974.  The M14 has been in service since 1959.  As of 2015 that is 56 years.

PTR-91, based off the Heckler and Koch G3, in service since the year 2000, so only 15 years as of 2015. The Heckler and Koch G3 has been in service since 1959. So 56 years like the M1A.

We have three military grade rifles based off proven designs. Where does the AR-10 fit into that group?

If you want something along the lines of a sporting rifle, there is the Remington Model 750 Woodsmaster with a walnut stock and the Model 750 Synthetic. The 750 synthetic comes with a synthetic stock as its name suggest.

Then there are the dozens of bolt action rifles chambered in 308 Winchester.  Just about every firearms manufacturer makes a rifle model chambered in 308 Winchester.  It is not like the market “needs” another rifle chambered in 308 Winchester, much less another semi-automatic rifle.

Awhile back I was looking for a 308 semi-auto rifle that would be included in my long term SHTF survival plans. I considered the AR-10, but not seriously. If I am going to stockpile magazines and gun parts, why not stockpile them for a rifle that has half a century of military service behind it?

What are your thoughts on the AR-10? 

Post your comments in this forum thread – Is the AR-10 platform needed.

308 Survival Rifle Cost Of Ownership

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Are you considering buying a rifle chambered in 308 Winchester to help you and your family through a long term SHTF situation?  The three main rifles on the market are the M1A, PTR-91 and the FN/FAL.  There are a lot of articles out there discussing the points of each rifle.  What is rarely talked about is the overall cost of ownership.

Why should we worry about the cost of ownership?  You save to buy the rifle, then you find out how expensive spare parts are.  To some people, the price of spare parts and magazines might be a deciding factor.

Lets look at 2 topics, spare parts and magazines.

What will not be discussed is tacticool items, such as rails, slings and scopes.  With so many options on the market, there is too much to discuss when it comes to scopes and slings.

Lets look at just the basic rifle, something that can be used to protect your property, protect your crops, livestock and hunt with.

Magazines

For this project lets stockpile 25 magazines.  This provides 3 rifles with 7 magazines each, and 4 spares.

The following prices are samples taken from random websites.

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Firearms Every Survivalist Should Own

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Ok Survivalist, its time to talk about firearms every serious prepper should own.

AK-47 AR-15 Survival RiflesWhether you are in an urban survival situation, have a homestead you plan on using as a Bug Out Location, bugging in, or bugging out to the wilderness, lets put together a solid list of well preforming firearms.

Requirements for this list require the firearm to have a long history of civilian or military service, and must have a reputation of being reliable.

Ruger 10/22 is the bees knees of 22 rifles. There are a lot of 22 rifles out there, but few of them can compare to the reliability and the customization of the Ruger 10/22.

My first experience with a Ruger 10/22 was sometime in 1984 or 1985 when 3 of my buddies and I were on a 3 day camping trip. We loaded up an aluminum boat and headed out to one of the bayous close to Bridge City, Texas.

On the second day of the camping trip after eating lunch, Allen and I took the dishes to the bayou to wash them. While we were washing the dishes, we saw a nutria rat on the other side of the slough. 1 shot with the Ruger 10/22 took care of the animal. Allen and I got in the aluminum boat we used to reach the camping spot, then paddled over to retrieve the nutria rat.

We skinned the nutria rat and brought it back to the camping spot where it was roasted over a camp fire and eaten. Even though we had just eaten dinner, it was just canned chili and we were still hungry. The meat from that nutria rat really hit the spot.

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Monarch 308 Winchester Review Part 1

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In this article:

  • 2012 presidential election is drawing near
  • democrat is in office
  • 308 Winchester is getting scarce
  • Bought some Monarch 308 from Academy sports and outdoors
  • Fired off a few rounds and took pictures

Elections

Its an election year, and a democrap is president.  Every election year there is a rush on guns and ammunition.  When a democrap is in office, the panic buying gets really bad.  People are worried about the glorious dicktator obama stripping us of our rights.  So what do we do?  We stock up.

Our glorious dicktator obama has done more to promote panic buying then any other president I can remember (I am 44 years old).

When bill clinton was elected office, and when the assault rifle ban was passed, people freaked out and bought everything in sight.  Every time the dicktator opens his mouth gun sales spike.

We just “thought” bill clinton was bad.

It is not “just” the elections, people are worried about the economy, jobs, tensions with iran, tensions with china.  To be perfectly honest, people are worried.

308 getting scarce

I do not know if my local walmart in Jasper, Texas does not order 308 Winchester, or they can not get in.  But either way, I have not seen Remington core-lokt 150 grain 308 Winchester in a couple of months.  I have not seen Federal in maybe 2 months or so.

308 supplies online seem to be drying up, or at the very least hit and miss.  Someone might have 308 in stock for a couple of days, and then they are sold out.

If I did order online, all I would be getting is FMJ.  Yea FMJ is cheap, it works, but its not very good for hunting.  Sure FMJ pokes a hole, but some expansion would be nice.

Academy sports and outdoors sells a Monarch brand ammunition in a wide range of calibers.  For the past 5 or 6 years all I have shot out of my AK47 is steel cased Monarch.  Since it shoots good out of the AK, I decided to pick up a couple of box in 308 Winchester.

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Survival Gear Preps Second Quarter 2012

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Stockpiling SHTF Survival GearWhile stockpiling survival gear for a long term SHTF / TEOTWAWKI situation, I think it is important to pause, review, and then move forward.  It does no good to stockpile the same thing over and over, while overlooking other essential preps.  The changing of the seasons, a new year, or every 3 – 4 months are good times to do reviews.

January, February and March of 2012 were dedicated to buying a Remington 1911 R1, stockpiling 45acp, collecting some some books on chickens, buying some chicks and building my chicken coop.  The 1911 is for personal / property defense, and the chickens are for a sustainable food source.

Related Forum ThreadMy Chicken Coop Project

April, May and June of 2012 were dedicated to expanding my ability to purify water, some new cooking gear, expanding my stockpile of brass cased 223, buying some 308 Winchester, diversifying my stockpile of 22 long rifle and expanding my first aid supplies.

Purifying Water

If water purification is not at the top of your long term survival plans, it should be.  Without safe drinking water, life as we know it can not exist.

My recent additions were two Berkey black filters and a SteriPen Sidewinder.

The Royal Berkey I keep at the Bug Out Location has 2 black filters.  Each filter has a life expectancy of around 3,000 gallons – depending on water quality.   With the addition of 2 more filters, I can now filter an estimated 12,000 gallons of water.

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Case Against The 300 Blackout

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Kevin Felts blogger and survivalistPurpose::  This article is not to discuss the positive or negative points of the 300 Blackout, but rather should survivalist add another caliber to their collection. This is a blog of a survivalist, as such we are going to discuss topics related to prepping / survivalism and from a  survivalist point of view.

History: The 300 Blackout was designed to be comparable to the 7.62X39, but to work in the AR platform.  Think of a 30-30 short from an AR.

Availability: While the 300 Blackout is available in the AR platform and certain high grade bolt action platforms, it has not made the migration to the lesser expensive bolt action rifles.

When this article was published there are only a handful of bolt action rifles on the market chambered for 300 Blackout. As of early 2012 Savage has cancelled its plans for a 300 Blackout rifle.  A Google search for Ruger 300 Blackout did not turn up any company related information.

From a survivalist point of view, why would I want to stockpile yet “another” caliber that is chambered in a limited number of rifles?

Related Forum ThreadHow much ammunition to stockpile

223 Remington – Holy Mother of GOD, every major gun manufacturer in the world makes something in the 223.

7.62X39 – Slightly less then the Holy Mother of GOD 223 Remington, the 7.62×39 is chambered in a wide range of rifles.

308 Winchester – Holy Mother of GODs big sister, everybody and their brother and sister makes something in 308 Winchester.

Lets say that you wanted to stockpile firearms chambered in 308, we can pick from – PTR91, M1A, FN/FAL, Remington 750 Woodsmaster, and tons of bolt action rifles.

Lets say you wanted to stockpile firearms in 300 BLK, we can pick from – AR15, couple of expensive bolt action rifles.

I dont know about you, but cost is a factor with me.

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Top 5 survival rifles

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22 long rifle 223 7.62X39 30-30 30-06One of the most asked questions I see on the forum – “what is the best survival rifle?” A well balanced answer is, there is no perfect rifle. If you live in Alaska, your rifle needs are going to be a lot different then someone that lives in the Southern states. Its doubtful someone living in southern Florida is going to be running in Grizzly bears, like someone in someone in the Northern States might. If you live in Colorado, or Washington state you might be hunting elk or moose, while people in Louisiana, Alabama or Mississippi might be hunting whitetail deer or wild hogs.

1) Ruger 10/22 – semi-automatic, magazine fed, 22 caliber rifle. Its not one thing that sets the Ruger 10/22 apart, its the huge list – the reliability, the vast selection of accessories – magazines, scopes, barrels, stocks,,,,,, just all kinds of stuff. My personal Ruger 10/22 was bought in January of 1986, and is still going strong.

My first experience with a Ruger 10/22 was sometime in 1984 or 1985 when 3 of my buddies and I were on a 3 day camping trip. We loaded up an aluminum boat and headed out to one of the bayous close to Bridge City, Texas – this was sometime around 1984 or 1985. After eating lunch, Allen and I took the dishes to the bayou to wash them. While we were washing the dishes, we saw a nutria rat on the other side of the bayou. 1 shot with the Ruger 10/22 took care of the animal. Allen and I got in the aluminum boat we had used to reach the camping spot, and paddled across the bayou to retrieve the animal. We skinned the nutria rat and brought it back to the camping spot where it was roasted over a camp fire and eaten. Even though we had just eaten dinner, it was just canned chili and we were still hungry. The meat from that nutria rat really hit the spot.

After I handled the Ruger 10/22 on that 3 day camping trip, I knew I had to have one. From that day forward, the Ruger 10/22 has been one of my favorite survival rifles.

The 22 long rifle cartridge only compliments the 10/22. The 22 long rifle is cheap, easy to stockpile, does not have a loud report, easy to carry and has plenty of power to take small game – like the nutria rat. With prices ranging from $12 – $20 for a brick of 550 rounds, for people on a budget, the 22 long rifle is going to be a tough round to beat.

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