Thinking About Buying a 300 Blackout
When I look at buying a new rifle or rifle caliber, first I consider how that rifle will fit into my long term SHTF survival plans. What niche does the rifle fill, how easy is it to find replacement parts, is ammunition easy to find, is the rifle user friendly so I can teach my kids how to shoot it.
One of the main problems I have with the 300 Blackout, I do not want to start buying yet “another” caliber. I already buy 223 Remington, 7.62×39, 30-30, 308 Winchester and 280 Remington / 7mm Express.
What niche does the 300 Blackout fill that any of those calibers don’t already fill?
Deer hunting, I have the 30-30, 308 Winchester and 280 Remington.
Hog hunting, I have the 223 Remington and 7.62×39.
In this related article we talked about hunting hogs with 223 Remington.
The second issue with the 300 Blackout, where am I supposed to buy ammo from? I live in rural southeast Texas, 100 miles from anywhere. I buy a 300 blackout upper, then I have to mail order all of my ammunition.
Back in the 1990s I acquired a Remington model 700 mountain rifle in 280 Remington / 7mm Express. The 7mm Express is not “that” popular, ammunition was only available at the local Academy sports and outdoors in Beaumont Texas.
At the time, I thought the ballistics were worth the added cost of the ammunition over the 270 Winchester. Here we are 20 years later, and 280 Remington ammunition cost a small fortune. Instead of $15 for 20 rounds, Remington core-lokt cost more like $25 for 20 rounds. As compared to 308 Winchester that cost around $18 for 20 rounds.
Ammunition Cost – With no military surplus like what we have with the 223 Remington, 7.62×39 and 308 Winchester, its doubtful the 300 Blackout will ever reach military surplus prices.
When a comm block nation falls, shiploads of ammunition are usually dumped on the world market. Back in the late 1980s and into the mid-1990s a case of Russian 7.62×39 cost around $90. This was a wooden case with a carry handle on each side, something like 1,200 rounds of hollow point 7.62×39 for less then $100. Its doubtful 300 Blackout will ever see prices like that.
Poaching – I despise poachers, but its something that I feel needs to be mentioned. One of the things that helps get poachers reported is people living in the ear hearing the report of a rifle late at night. When the poachers use a suppressed rifle, its one less thing to worry about.
Related Article – Stockpiling too many types of survival ammunition
There comes a point in time when survivalist are spreading themselves too thin. Instead of being able to buy 10 boxes of one caliber, we end up buying 2 boxes for five different calibers.
While Stockpiling Ammunition for SHTF, some preppers follow a rule of 2, have at least two rifles of the same caliber, and have at least two thousand rounds for those 2 rifles.
So far we have been discussing reasons not to buy a 300 Blackout, so lets spend some time talking about reasons we should buy one.
Suppression – One of the big selling points of the 300 blackout is the shooter is slinging a 308 chunk of lead downrange, and the report is suppressed.
Having a suppressed rifle could come in handy during a SHTF situation.
Hog and/or deer hunting after SHTF, having a suppressed rifle could help prevent giving away your location to other hunters.
Predator Control – Coyotes or other predators trying to get your livestock? Low report could be handy for not spooking the livestock or alerting the neighbors.
308 caliber in an AR platform – one of the disadvantages of the AR platform is that people have been locked into the 223 Remington / 5.56mm. If you want a larger caliber, you have to switch to a whole new platform such as the FN/FAL, AK-47, M1A or PTR-91. Switching to a new platform means retraining the shooter, stockpiling different magazines, dealing with the weight of a full sized 308 rifle, as compared to an AR-15.
Being able to take the AR platform, and rechamber it for a larger bullet, without having to retrain the shooter is a huge advantage.
Several months ago my daughter, son and I went to the homestead to do some shooting. My son and daughter knew how to shoot the AR-15, but on this trip we were shooting the FN/FAL. The training had to start all over – this is the safety, this is how you insert a magazine, this is the bolt release,,,,.
Instead of having to train people in your survival group on how to shoot several different rifles, why not keep that list as short as possible.
Magazines – At this point I am stockpiling magazines for AR-15, AK-47, Ruger 10/22 and FN/FAL. The FN/FAL magazines cost a small fortune, as compared to PTR-91 and AR-15 magazines.
Wouldn’t it be easier to buy 1 magazine that can handle 2 different calibers, such as the 223 Remington and 300 Blackout?
If you are stockpiling magazines for the long term, the aluminum magazines of the AR platform store better then the steel magazines of the AK-47.
AR15 magazines are cheap.
Lets just go ahead and admit it, the Magpul windowed Pmags are cool looking.
Effectiveness – which is more effective, 223 or a 308 bullet?
One thing I know for sure, .308 is larger then .223 everyday of the week.
Reports are coming out that the 300 blackout is very effective on deer and hog sized game. There is a guy on my facebook feed that is hunting the 2012 – 2013 deer season with a 300 Blackout.
I can think of a lot of good reasons to buy a 300 Blackout, and only a few reasons not to buy one.
One of the biggest complications is the price and availability of ammunition.
Looking through various websites that sell 300 Blackout, the cheapest I have found is $17 for a box of 20, with $25 a box of 20 being the average price.
At those prices we are back at the 280 Remington example – why buy another rifle that cost a small fortune to shoot, and the ammunition is difficult to find?
Maybe when Wolf and Tula start producing 300 Blackout there will be a low cost ammunition option.
Why should I buy a rifle that is going to cost a small fortune to stockpile ammunition for? I bought a rifle chambered in 308 Winchester to replace the Remington model 700 mountain rifle in 280 Remington as my main deer rifle. The 280 Remington / 7mm Express is great on deer, but it cost a fortune to buy ammunition for.
If I am going to own a rifle, then I want to be able to stockpile enough ammunition for a long term SHTF situation. The 280 Remington is cost prohibitive, so it was replaced with an FN/FAL as my primary hunting rifle.
When it becomes affordable to shoot the 300 Blackout, then and only then will I buy one.
Forum Thread – Where does the 300 blackout fit in a survivalist stockpile
FN/FAL next to the Angelina River[img src=http://www.survivalboards.com/wp-content/gallery/rifles/thumbs/thumbs_ak-47-ergo-suregrip-93012759.jpg]1510AK-47
AK-47 with an ergo Suregrip[img src=http://www.survivalboards.com/wp-content/gallery/rifles/thumbs/thumbs_firearms-for-shtf-127121056.jpg]2060Collection of various firearms
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This 9 point whitetail deer was taken with a Remington model 700 bolt action rifle chambered in 280 Remington.[img src=http://www.survivalboards.com/wp-content/gallery/rifles/thumbs/thumbs_whitetail-deer-61412118.jpg]480Deer taken with 280 Remington / 7mm Express
This southeast Texas whitetail deer was taken with a Remington model 700 bolt action rifle chambered in 280 Remington / 7mm express.